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Date:         Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:28:01 -0500
Reply-To:     Labor History Forum 
Sender:       Labor History Forum 
From:         "J. Phillip Eisemann" 
Subject:      Apprenticeship as part of labor history

Apprenticeship is working class education which is seldom considered in
studies of working class history.  Apprenticeship has a long history and a
rich tradition.  It is sad that it is so often scorned by working class
parents when advising their children
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Date:         Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:18:34 -0000
Reply-To:     Labor History Forum 
Sender:       Labor History Forum 
From:         Eric Chase 
Subject:      Re: Apprenticeship as part of labor history
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Mr. Eisemann,
This is very true.  I am an apprentice through the Carpenters as well as
have my MA in Labor History.  Unfortunately, the reverse is true as well,
apprenticeship classes seldom consider inclusion of working class history in
their curriculum.  Though on the back burner, I am trying to create
positions in various schools that offer trade trainings that would address
this topic.  I would love to hear ideas on how people could go about doing
this.  Are there any models?  What ever happened to the labor colleges
started by the Wobblies and other unions?  I am also a Wobbly and would love
to find info on current or past labor schools, those that have
"apprenticeship" programs as well as social sciences, arts, math, etc.

When I taught high school, I nearly yanked my hair out at the thought that
there were no courses on labor history/studies offered at all 3 of the high
schools here.  I would imagine if the teachers were affiliated with the
Steelworkers this would not be the case.

Solidarity,
Eric Chase
Oly IWW



J. Phillip Eisemann wrote:

Apprenticeship is working class education which is seldom considered in
studies of working class history.  Apprenticeship has a long history and a
rich tradition.  It is sad that it is so often scorned by working class
parents when advising their children

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Date:         Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:18:51 -0800
Reply-To:     Labor History Forum 
Sender:       Labor History Forum 
From:         Austin Manghan 
Subject:      Re: Apprenticeship as part of labor history
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My personal experience with union carpenters is that
they're cut off from their history with the possible
exception of continuing the racist tradition of Samuel
Gompers.

Austin Manghan


--- Eric Chase  wrote:
> Mr. Eisemann,
> This is very true.  I am an apprentice through the
> Carpenters as well as
> have my MA in Labor History.  Unfortunately, the
> reverse is true as well,
> apprenticeship classes seldom consider inclusion of
> working class history in
> their curriculum.  Though on the back burner, I am
> trying to create
> positions in various schools that offer trade
> trainings that would address
> this topic.  I would love to hear ideas on how
> people could go about doing
> this.  Are there any models?  What ever happened to
> the labor colleges
> started by the Wobblies and other unions?  I am also
> a Wobbly and would love
> to find info on current or past labor schools, those
> that have
> "apprenticeship" programs as well as social
> sciences, arts, math, etc.
>
> When I taught high school, I nearly yanked my hair
> out at the thought that
> there were no courses on labor history/studies
> offered at all 3 of the high
> schools here.  I would imagine if the teachers were
> affiliated with the
> Steelworkers this would not be the case.
>
> Solidarity,
> Eric Chase
> Oly IWW
>
>
>
> J. Phillip Eisemann wrote:
>
> Apprenticeship is working class education which is
> seldom considered in
> studies of working class history.  Apprenticeship
> has a long history and a
> rich tradition.  It is sad that it is so often
> scorned by working class
> parents when advising their children
>
>
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Date:         Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:34:38 -0600
Reply-To:     Labor History Forum 
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From:         Paula Sullivan 
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Please remove me from this forum.  I teach English and have supllied the forum
to our history teachers.  thanks!

Paula Sullivan
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Date:         Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:57:16 -0500
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From:         WILLIAM MCGAUGHEY 
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I am not connected with the forum but a person interested in subscribing.
Somehow your message was forwarded to me.  William McGaughey
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>Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2001, 9:34 AM
>

>Please remove me from this forum.  I teach English and have supllied the forum
>to our history teachers.  thanks!
>
>Paula Sullivan
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Date:         Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:22:34 -0800
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From:         "Farkhondeh, Simin" 
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I AM NOT THE THE PERSON THAT CAN UNSUBSCIBE YOU!

Simin Farkhondeh
Labor at the Crossroads
C/O Center for Media & Learning
CUNY Graduate Ctr.
365 Fifth Avenue, Room X107
New York, N. Y. 10016


> From: WILLIAM MCGAUGHEY 
> Reply-To: Labor History Forum 
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:57:16 -0500
> To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
>
> I am not connected with the forum but a person interested in subscribing.
> Somehow your message was forwarded to me.  William McGaughey
> ----------
>> From: Paula Sullivan 
>> To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>> Subject: Unsubscribe
>> Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2001, 9:34 AM
>>
>
>> Please remove me from this forum.  I teach English and have supllied the
>> forum
>> to our history teachers.  thanks!
>>
>> Paula Sullivan
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Date:         Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:24:05 -0800
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I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GOT MY ADDRESS. I AM SENDING YOU ANYTHING. AS FAR AS I
KNOW YOU ARE NOT ON ANY LIST OF MINE! I am at a loss.
Simin Farkhondeh
Labor at the Crossroads
C/O Center for Media & Learning
CUNY Graduate Ctr.
365 Fifth Avenue, Room X107
New York, N. Y. 10016


> From: Paula Sullivan 
> Reply-To: Labor History Forum 
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:34:38 -0600
> To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
> Subject: Unsubscribe
>
> Please remove me from this forum.  I teach English and have supllied the forum
> to our history teachers.  thanks!
>
> Paula Sullivan
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Date:         Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:57:24 -0800
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please unsubscribe me from your labor forum

Richard Powell


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- Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - only $35 a year! --0-1381057389-982256244=:19764-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:11:56 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: "Gabin, Nancy" Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm not the person to unsubscribe you. ************************ Nancy Gabin Associate Professor Department of History Purdue University West Lafayette IN 47907-1358 Ph: 765-494-4122 Fax: 765-496-1755 Email: ngabin@purdue.edu -----Original Message----- From: Richard Powell [mailto:jjjpp@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:57 AM To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: unsubscribe please unsubscribe me from your labor forum Richard Powell _____ Do You Yahoo!? - Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - only $35 a year! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:48:55 -0800 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: Pete Haro Subject: Re: Apprenticeship as part of labor history Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Mr. Chase: My name is Pete Haro and I teach American History at Southwestern College in Chula Vista, CA. I must confess that I had no idea that the Wobblies were still even in existence. I would love to strengthen my class approach to labor history. Any suggestions? In addition, please let me know if there are any I.W.W. chapters located in the San Diego area. Sincerely, Pete Haro. ---------- >From: Eric Chase >To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU >Subject: Re: Apprenticeship as part of labor history >Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2001, 12:18 AM > > Mr. Eisemann, > This is very true. I am an apprentice through the Carpenters as well as > have my MA in Labor History. Unfortunately, the reverse is true as well, > apprenticeship classes seldom consider inclusion of working class history in > their curriculum. Though on the back burner, I am trying to create > positions in various schools that offer trade trainings that would address > this topic. I would love to hear ideas on how people could go about doing > this. Are there any models? What ever happened to the labor colleges > started by the Wobblies and other unions? I am also a Wobbly and would love > to find info on current or past labor schools, those that have > "apprenticeship" programs as well as social sciences, arts, math, etc. > > When I taught high school, I nearly yanked my hair out at the thought that > there were no courses on labor history/studies offered at all 3 of the high > schools here. I would imagine if the teachers were affiliated with the > Steelworkers this would not be the case. > > Solidarity, > Eric Chase > Oly IWW > > > > J. Phillip Eisemann wrote: > > Apprenticeship is working class education which is seldom considered in > studies of working class history. Apprenticeship has a long history and a > rich tradition. It is sad that it is so often scorned by working class > parents when advising their children > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:21:08 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: Jeff Bernstein Subject: Re: Apprenticeship as part of labor history MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT For more info on the Wobblies, see . In Solidarity, Jeff Bernstein ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:14:52 -0700 Reply-To: mcanz@earthlink.net Sender: Labor History Forum From: "Mary C. Canzoneri" Subject: Re: Apprenticeship as part of labor history MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr. Chase: I would like to know whether there are any IWW chapters here in Phoenix, Arizona. Thank you, Mary C. Canzoneri, Ph.D. Women's History, U.S. History Mesa Community College Pete Haro wrote: > Dear Mr. Chase: > > My name is Pete Haro and I teach American History at Southwestern College in > Chula Vista, CA. I must confess that I had no idea that the Wobblies were > still even in existence. I would love to strengthen my class approach to > labor history. Any suggestions? In addition, please let me know if there are > any I.W.W. chapters located in the San Diego area. Sincerely, Pete Haro. > > ---------- > >From: Eric Chase > >To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > >Subject: Re: Apprenticeship as part of labor history > >Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2001, 12:18 AM > > > > > Mr. Eisemann, > > This is very true. I am an apprentice through the Carpenters as well as > > have my MA in Labor History. Unfortunately, the reverse is true as well, > > apprenticeship classes seldom consider inclusion of working class history in > > their curriculum. Though on the back burner, I am trying to create > > positions in various schools that offer trade trainings that would address > > this topic. I would love to hear ideas on how people could go about doing > > this. Are there any models? What ever happened to the labor colleges > > started by the Wobblies and other unions? I am also a Wobbly and would love > > to find info on current or past labor schools, those that have > > "apprenticeship" programs as well as social sciences, arts, math, etc. > > > > When I taught high school, I nearly yanked my hair out at the thought that > > there were no courses on labor history/studies offered at all 3 of the high > > schools here. I would imagine if the teachers were affiliated with the > > Steelworkers this would not be the case. > > > > Solidarity, > > Eric Chase > > Oly IWW > > > > > > > > J. Phillip Eisemann wrote: > > > > Apprenticeship is working class education which is seldom considered in > > studies of working class history. Apprenticeship has a long history and a > > rich tradition. It is sad that it is so often scorned by working class > > parents when advising their children > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:14:50 -0600 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: "Freida High W. Tesfagiorgis" Subject: unsubscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, Please remove my name from this list. Thank you, Freida High Wasikhongo Tesfagiorgis ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:08:53 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: "Noonan, Ellen" Subject: Clarification re: Labor History forum Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3065162933_79143_MIME_Part" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3065162933_79143_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear "Talking History" subscribers, While we certainly appreciate your eagerness to begin the discussion about teaching labor history, the forum does not officially begin until March 1st. At that time, David Montgomery will post an opening statement and subscribers can respond to the points he raises and raise additional questions of their own. For those of you who wish to unsubscribe from the list, please DO NOT send a message to the entire list to do so. You should have received a welcome message from the forum that contains instructions on how to unsubscribe yourself from the forum. To unsubscribe, you can go on the web to http://ashp.listserv.cuny.edu/archives/laborforum.html and choose "Join or leave the list" and follow the instructions there. Or, you can send a message to LISTSERV@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU with the words "SIGNOFF LABORFORUM" in the subject line. Finally, keep in mind that when you see "LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU" in the "To" field at the top of an email message, that means that *all* subscribers to the forum have received that message--it wasn't meant for you individually. More important, if you respond to a message from "LABORFORUM" every subscriber will receive your message. That's why requests to unsubscribe from the list or personal messages to other subscribers you may know shouldn't go to the LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU address. I hope this clears up any confusion. Best regards, Ellen Ellen Noonan American Social History Project/Center for Media and Learning 365 Fifth Avenue, Rm. 7301.10 New York, NY 10016 (212) 817-1969 enoonan@gc.cuny.edu --MS_Mac_OE_3065162933_79143_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Clarification re: Labor History forum Dear "Talking History" subscribers,

While we certainly appreciate your eagerness to begin the discussion = about teaching labor history, the forum does not officially begin until = March 1st. At that time, David Montgomery will post an opening = statement and subscribers can respond to the points he raises and raise = additional questions of their own.

For those of you who wish to unsubscribe from the list, please DO NOT = send a message to the entire list to do so. You should have received a = welcome message from the forum that contains instructions on how to = unsubscribe yourself from the forum. To unsubscribe, you can go on the = web to http://ashp.listserv.cuny.edu/archives/laborforum.html and = choose "Join or leave the list" and follow the instructions = there. Or, you can send a message to LISTSERV@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU = with the words "SIGNOFF LABORFORUM" in the = subject line.

Finally, keep in mind that when you see =  "LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU" in the = "To" field at the top of an email message, that means that = *all* subscribers to the forum have received that message--it wasn't = meant for you individually. More important, if you respond to a message = from "LABORFORUM" every subscriber will receive your message. = That's why requests to unsubscribe from the list or personal messages = to other subscribers you may know shouldn't go to the = LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU address.

I hope this clears up any confusion.

Best regards,

Ellen


Ellen Noonan
American Social History Project/Center for Media and Learning
365 Fifth Avenue, Rm. 7301.10
New York, NY  10016
(212) 817-1969
enoonan@gc.cuny.edu



--MS_Mac_OE_3065162933_79143_MIME_Part-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:11:49 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: "Noonan, Ellen" Subject: Labor Forum additional clarification In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.20010215221450.008b38e0@facstaff.wisc.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Talking History subscribers, Proving that even list administrators make mistakes sometimes, I gave you incorrect instructions about unsubscribing to the list. If you send a message to LISTSERV@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU put the words "SIGNOFF LABORFORUM" in the body of the message, not on the subject line. Ellen Ellen Noonan American Social History Project/Center for Media and Learning 365 Fifth Avenue, Rm. 7301.10 New York, NY 10016 (212) 817-1969 enoonan@gc.cuny.edu > From: "Freida High W. Tesfagiorgis" > Reply-To: Labor History Forum > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:14:50 -0600 > To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > Subject: unsubscribe > > Hello, > Please remove my name from this list. > Thank you, > Freida High Wasikhongo Tesfagiorgis ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:41:26 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: "Noonan, Ellen" Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.20010215221450.008b38e0@facstaff.wisc.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Frieda Tesfagiorgis, I have unsubscribed you from the Labor History forum. I sent a message to the entire list this morning explaining that the forum does not officially begin until March 1st and David Montgomery will post an opening statement at that time. I would encourage you to perhaps check the forum again at that time to see if it is more what you were anticipating when you subscribed. Best regards, Ellen Noonan Ellen Noonan American Social History Project/Center for Media and Learning 365 Fifth Avenue, Rm. 7301.10 New York, NY 10016 (212) 817-1969 enoonan@gc.cuny.edu > From: "Freida High W. Tesfagiorgis" > Reply-To: Labor History Forum > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:14:50 -0600 > To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > Subject: unsubscribe > > Hello, > Please remove my name from this list. > Thank you, > Freida High Wasikhongo Tesfagiorgis ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:06:03 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: WILLIAM MCGAUGHEY Subject: Re: unsubscribe Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am Bill McGaughey. Please do not include me in messages for other people. Thanks. wmcg@prodigy.net ---------- >From: "Noonan, Ellen" >To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU >Subject: Re: unsubscribe >Date: Fri, Feb 16, 2001, 11:41 AM > >Dear Frieda Tesfagiorgis, > >I have unsubscribed you from the Labor History forum. > >I sent a message to the entire list this morning explaining that the forum >does not officially begin until March 1st and David Montgomery will post an >opening statement at that time. I would encourage you to perhaps check the >forum again at that time to see if it is more what you were anticipating >when you subscribed. > >Best regards, > >Ellen Noonan > > > >Ellen Noonan >American Social History Project/Center for Media and Learning >365 Fifth Avenue, Rm. 7301.10 >New York, NY 10016 >(212) 817-1969 >enoonan@gc.cuny.edu > > > > >> From: "Freida High W. Tesfagiorgis" >> Reply-To: Labor History Forum >> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:14:50 -0600 >> To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU >> Subject: unsubscribe >> >> Hello, >> Please remove my name from this list. >> Thank you, >> Freida High Wasikhongo Tesfagiorgis ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:21:45 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: David Montgomery Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Ellen: This is one of about 8 or 10 unsubscribe messages that have come to me. It was the general massage you sent out to day that let me know what these messages were all about. I did not keep the others. David At 11:41 AM 2/16/01 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Frieda Tesfagiorgis, > >I have unsubscribed you from the Labor History forum. > >I sent a message to the entire list this morning explaining that the forum >does not officially begin until March 1st and David Montgomery will post an >opening statement at that time. I would encourage you to perhaps check the >forum again at that time to see if it is more what you were anticipating >when you subscribed. > >Best regards, > >Ellen Noonan > > > >Ellen Noonan >American Social History Project/Center for Media and Learning >365 Fifth Avenue, Rm. 7301.10 >New York, NY 10016 >(212) 817-1969 >enoonan@gc.cuny.edu > > > > >> From: "Freida High W. Tesfagiorgis" >> Reply-To: Labor History Forum >> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:14:50 -0600 >> To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU >> Subject: unsubscribe >> >> Hello, >> Please remove my name from this list. >> Thank you, >> Freida High Wasikhongo Tesfagiorgis > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:55:15 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: "Noonan, Ellen" Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <200102161927.OAA16063@mr3.its.yale.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Prof. Montgomery, Apologies for the confusion; I have learned a lesson here, to avoid subscribing people too far in advance of the official start of these forums! Ellen Ellen Noonan American Social History Project/Center for Media and Learning 365 Fifth Avenue, Rm. 7301.10 New York, NY 10016 (212) 817-1969 enoonan@gc.cuny.edu > From: David Montgomery > Reply-To: Labor History Forum > Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:21:45 -0500 > To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > Dear Ellen: > This is one of about 8 or 10 unsubscribe messages that have come to me. It > was the general massage you sent out to day that let me know what these > messages were all about. I did not keep the others. > David > > > > > > At 11:41 AM 2/16/01 -0500, you wrote: >> Dear Frieda Tesfagiorgis, >> >> I have unsubscribed you from the Labor History forum. >> >> I sent a message to the entire list this morning explaining that the forum >> does not officially begin until March 1st and David Montgomery will post an >> opening statement at that time. I would encourage you to perhaps check the >> forum again at that time to see if it is more what you were anticipating >> when you subscribed. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Ellen Noonan >> >> >> >> Ellen Noonan >> American Social History Project/Center for Media and Learning >> 365 Fifth Avenue, Rm. 7301.10 >> New York, NY 10016 >> (212) 817-1969 >> enoonan@gc.cuny.edu >> >> >> >> >>> From: "Freida High W. Tesfagiorgis" >>> Reply-To: Labor History Forum >>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:14:50 -0600 >>> To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU >>> Subject: unsubscribe >>> >>> Hello, >>> Please remove my name from this list. >>> Thank you, >>> Freida High Wasikhongo Tesfagiorgis >> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:40:16 -0600 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: Bryan Brattin Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Noonan, Ellen" wrote: > Dear Prof. Montgomery, > > Apologies for the confusion; I have learned a lesson here, to avoid > subscribing people too far in advance of the official start of these forums! > > Ellen > Hmmm . . . that's certainly one possible lesson. Another could be that many of the folks signed up for this forum have not participated in similar list servers before, and are just beginning to learn how to work their "Delete" keys. I would encourage you, Ellen, to press on with the good work without worrying about the small handful of folks who are still trying to get the hang of this service you are providing to them. They will catch on eventually, and there are others of us out here that are simply thankful, waiting in eager anticipation in the meantime. Hopefully, those of us that remain can approach this with a bit of light-heartedness, and with our senses of humor intact and functional. Feel free to annihilate this message without mercy if it offends you. If anyone wants to respond to me individually, you may do so at . bē Bryan Brattin Research Associate Texas A&M University This forum on Labor History is sponsored by History Matters--please visit our Web site at http://historymatters.gmu.edu for more resources for teaching U.S. History. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:49:43 -0500 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: Jeannette Gabriel Subject: Re: Clarification re: Labor History forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Thanks to Ellen for her work in maintaining the list. We still have two weeks to go until the beginning of March and a group of activists who want to discuss teaching labor history. Why don't we have a preliminary discussion? Is that allowed? I'm sure all of us are coming from different perspectives of what we hope to get out of this forum. Maybe if we introduced ourselves and talked about what we hoped to accomplish here that would help focus the discussion. In solidarity, Jeannette Gabriel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com This forum on Labor History is sponsored by History Matters--please visit our Web site at http://historymatters.gmu.edu for more resources for teaching U.S. History. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:55:35 -0800 Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: emily rader Subject: Re: Clarification re: Labor History forum Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'd like to second both of Jeannette's statements: thanks to Ellen for maintaining the list, and why don't we start a discussion, since folks seem geared up already. Let's continue the apprenticeship thread. Emily Rader ---------- >From: Jeannette Gabriel >To: LABORFORUM@ASHP.LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU >Subject: Re: Clarification re: Labor History forum >Date: Fri, Feb 16, 2001, 6:49 PM > > Thanks to Ellen for her work in maintaining the list. > > We still have two weeks to go until the beginning of March and a group of > activists who want to discuss teaching labor history. Why don't we have a > preliminary discussion? Is that allowed? I'm sure all of us are coming > from different perspectives of what we hope to get out of this forum. Maybe > if we introduced ourselves and talked about what we hoped to accomplish here > that would help focus the discussion. > > In solidarity, > Jeannette Gabriel > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > This forum on Labor History is sponsored by History Matters--please visit > our Web site at http://historymatters.gmu.edu for more resources for > teaching U.S. History. This forum on Labor History is sponsored by History Matters--please visit our Web site at http://historymatters.gmu.edu for more resources for teaching U.S. History. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:24:15 EST Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: Jack Zevin Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ellen: This is ridculous, my machine is clogged with unsubscriberrs!!! Jack This forum on Labor History is sponsored by History Matters--please visit our Web site at http://historymatters.gmu.edu for more resources for teaching U.S. History. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:26:13 EST Reply-To: Labor History Forum Sender: Labor History Forum From: Amber Koetsier Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please take me off of this list. Thank you Amber Koetsier amberkoetsier@aol.com This forum on Labor History is sponsored by History Matters--please visit our Web site at http://historymatters.gmu.edu for more resources for teaching U.S. History. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:54:38 -0600 Reply-To: herbndev@execpc.com Sender: Labor History Forum From: Rob Morris Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0F3003E4D5632B89A88C8A7A" --------------0F3003E4D5632B89A88C8A7A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jack Zevin wrote: > Ellen: > > This is ridculous, my machine is clogged with unsubscriberrs!!! > Jack > > This forum on Labor History is sponsored by History Matters--please visit our Web site at http://historymatters.gmu.edu for more resources for teaching U.S. History. Would love to be an unsubscriber, however the unsubscribe process isn't working. Please unsubscribe me, too! --------------0F3003E4D5632B89A88C8A7A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jack Zevin wrote:
Ellen:

This is ridculous, my machine is clogged with unsubscriberrs!!!
Jack

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